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Title: Migration from Bigtent to New Website
Post by: Thom on May 22, 2014, 07:18:53 PM
I am starting this topic fresh to address questions raised at May's monthly meeting, to focus the discussion and provide a clear topic heading.

For background info see the original discussion thread here: http://www.bigtent.com/group/forum/message/84858397?ff=1 (http://www.bigtent.com/group/forum/message/84858397?ff=1)


That covers the majority of my hosting concerns. If anyone has questions or input on any of this please post your comments below.

I have thus far not discussed the details about the different tiers of service or their related costs. It gets complicated, as the cost is impacted by some of the items described above. Free or low cost hosting often must be supported by advertisements or suffer from overloaded servers that result in slow performance or lack of support. That maze of choices is a good reason ONE is lucky to have my experience to draw upon.

One approach is to use the shared hosting account I already have on Hostmonster. A friend of mine and I run several websites under this account. It is where I setup the new ONE SMF forum I linked above. Launching ONE's new website + forum under the ozarkholler.com account would be the least expensive option that meets the requirements I described above. It is a shared hosting account and not a PRO level account so there are limitations. The volume of traffic on this account is quite low however and thus would provide good performance. This option would cost $90 a year, which includes the domain name registration fee. That comes out to $7.50 a month.

A new, separate shared hosting account (not under ozarkholler.com but a separate Hostmonster shared account) at this same level would cost $83.40 with an annual renewal cost of $119. A PRO shared account would jump to $239 a year but come with several advantages not available under the two shared hosting options above. The cost to renew the pro level hosting for subsequent years is $24.99 per month or $299 a year. A dedicated (non shared) hosting plan would cost way too much and isn't necessary for ONE so I didn't bother to get quotes for that top tier of service.
Title: Re: Migration from Bigtent to New Website
Post by: patrick quinn on May 22, 2014, 07:20:41 PM
Thank you Thom.
More latter...

Title: Re: Migration from Bigtent to New Website
Post by: Desiree Fleck on May 22, 2014, 07:22:17 PM
This is very thorough and a lot of it I don't understand but I am grateful that you took the time to write this out! I am happy with the idea of getting a new host and would definitely contribute to it. My thoughts on the website remain - a forum is great because it gives everyone an equal say in the workings of this group. I believe that a landing page is vital for those that are not already part of the group, a page that describes our vision, efforts, etc. We could have an event page with the work parties, a blog that describes things further, etc etc... It will all evolve and I know it requires a large effort on the parts of us, the members. I volunteer to spearhead the blog. I have experience using wordpress and blogger. Anything simple that has the template and stuff built in, I can work with. Here is what Ozark County has going on.. http://ozarkcountyhomegrownfoodproject.wordpress.com/ (http://ozarkcountyhomegrownfoodproject.wordpress.com/)

Title: Re: Migration from Bigtent to New Website
Post by: Desiree Fleck on May 22, 2014, 07:28:23 PM
I have started putting together a facebook page for the ONE group and will be working on getting a blog started as well. Thom, Carlos, and I will be working on putting the new website together. If you are at all interested in helping with blogging or any other website related task LET US KNOW! We'd love your help. :)

Title: Re: Migration from Bigtent to New Website
Post by: Thom on May 22, 2014, 07:32:27 PM
Thank you so much Carlos & Desiree for your assistance on this project. I'm really looking forward to what someone with an artistic bent will come up with.

Thanks for all you do and becoming part of O.N.E !!!

Within the last couple of hours Bigtent rolled out some new features, and in the process has caused forum posts such as this one to be altered, and renders my original post here disorganized and difficult to read.

One more reason to move our site elsewhere.

After hours of research and investigation and lacking any further discussion or input here, I have chosen Siteground as the new web hosting service to move forward with.

Siteground recently became a member of the i2coalition whose primary mission is to keep the internet free of SOPA & PIPA legislation that imposes censorship and other draconian measures to reduce our freedom on the net. But membership in the i2coalition is not a panacea and like all organizations could be co opted for other agendas.

In contrast to Hostmonster which is owned by the Endurance International Group, a huge conglomerate that has been aggressively buying up hosting companies for the last several years, Siteground has remained independent and continues to be ranked highly in the industry.

They offer several shared hosting plans, and they are offering 50% off of a great plan that will provide top notch performance and meet all of the criteria I described above. The "GoGeek" hosting plan will meet all our needs well into the future.

The cost is $14.95 / month for the first year, which beats the $19 / month quoted by Hostmonster for less features. The renewal rate is slightly higher than Hostmonster's at $27 / month vs. Hostmonsters $25 renewal. The renewal discount increases by 10% for each additional year renewed, so a 3 yr renewal would be $21 a month.

I've used Siteground shared hosting in the past and was very pleased with it. As discussed in the last meeting Patrick is footing the bill for the first year. Siteground offered me a 1 month trial and ability to lock in the promo price if we wanted to go for the full year.

The plan is to start data / account migration right away, and I hope to be done before the next ONE meeting on the 30th.
Title: Re: Migration from Bigtent to New Website
Post by: patrick quinn on May 22, 2014, 07:33:50 PM
This sounds really good, in my brief research, I say move forward. Let me know when it is time to ante up. And thank you for all you do!

Title: Re: Migration from Bigtent to New Website
Post by: Thom on June 03, 2014, 12:21:32 AM
I also wanted to let everyone know about the content migrated over from Bigtent.

For the approximately 100 posts I moved over I did preserve the order of each member's posting so as to keep the flow of the discussion intact.. However, I did NOT preserve the original date and time of the post made on Bigtent as that would have taken much much longer to do. So most of the dates will reflect when I actually posted them here in the new forum, not the time they originally occurred.